Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad – in order that God's purpose in election might stand:
NIV
And the children were yet unborn and had so far done nothing either good or evil. Even so, in order further to carry out God's purpose of selection (election, choice), which depends not on works or what men can do, but on Him Who calls [them]AMP
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
KJV
Pains as of a woman in childbirth come to him, but he is a child without wisdom; when the time arrives, he does not come to the opening of the womb.
NIV
The pains of a woman in childbirth are coming on for him [to be born]; but he is an unwise son, for now when it is time [to be born], he comes not to the place where [unborn] children break forth [he needs new birth but makes no effort to acquire it].
AMP
The sorrows of a travailing woman shall come upon him: he is an unwise son; for he should not stay long in the place of the breaking forth of children.
KJV
She treats her young harshly, as if they were not hers; she cares not that her labor was in vain
NIV
She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not hers; her labor is in vain because she has no sense of danger [for her unborn brood]AMP
She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not her's: her labour is in vain without fear;
KJV
